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@ 2007-01-09 00:55:00
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"Honestly, we've played a lot better teams than them," Florida defensive end Jarvis Moss said. "I could name four or five teams in the SEC that could probably compete with them and play the same type of game we did against them."

Dear AP Poll Voters and Big-10 Supporters,

Welcome to SEC football. Have a nice day.

Regards,
University of Florida

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 06:09 am UTC (link)
My take on the Big 10 is that top teams from other conferences can win against top Big 10 teams when it's one game but that going through an entire Big 10 schedule is an entirely different proposal. That said, I'm honestly surprised Florida won. OSU looked... sluggish.

How would you rank the conferences from top to bottom?

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-09 06:14 am UTC (link)
Are you kidding? The Big-10 has a couple of decent teams every year. The SEC has 5-8 decent teams every year. Michigan got exposed by USC and OSU got exposed by Florida -- a team that lost a conference game and almost lost a couple more. It's not even close. There's SEC football and then there's everything else.

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 06:43 am UTC (link)
Don't get me wrong, Auburn is one of my favorite teams. But do you honestly think playing seven other Big 10 teams wouldn't take a toll on Florida or USC?

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-09 06:46 am UTC (link)
Name a good Big-10 team.

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 06:49 am UTC (link)
Michigan.

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-09 07:07 am UTC (link)
Michigan rolled through a joke of a schedule before getting decimated by a decent USC team. Let's see Michigan's schedule:

Vanderbilt: 4-10 team
Central Michigan: 10-4 team, Mid-American Conference Team
Notre Dame: Got destroyed by LSU (SEC) 41-14 in bowl game
Wisconsin: Good team
Minnesota: 6-7
Michigan State: 4-8
Penn State: 9-4
Iowa: 6-7
Northwestern: 4-8
Ball State: 5-7, Mid-American Conference Team
Indiana: 5-7
Ohio State: LOST
USC: Blown Out

Do you even want to compare that to a typical SEC schedule? Let's do LSU -- I'll just list the teams they played with 10 or more wins in a major conference:

Auburn
Florida
Arkansas

Seriously, man...



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[info]prader
2007-01-09 07:23 am UTC (link)
Eh, forgot about Wisconsin.

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-09 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Uh, no, I listed Wisconsin.

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 05:42 pm UTC (link)
No, I meant *I* forgot about Wisconsin.

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(Anonymous)
2007-01-09 01:14 pm UTC (link)
The problem is...OSU didn't know what to do when they didn't have the LEAD!

A good team knows how to make a comeback!!!

Way to go Gators. Congrats!

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[info]jugglejuggle
2007-01-09 01:14 pm UTC (link)
The problem is...OSU didn't know what to do when they didn't have the LEAD!

A good team knows how to make a comeback!!!

Way to go Gators. Congrats!

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, you could be right on that count. Either that or they just couldn't account for all that speed.

BTW, your state happens to have my favorite I-A team... from a little town called Huntington. They aren't a powerhouse by any stretch but I had a blast there with a buddy of mine from Campbell who grew up in Huntington.

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[info]jugglejuggle
2007-01-09 06:17 pm UTC (link)
Huntington is a nice little college town yes.

Are you referring to Marshall University??

Have u seen 'We Are Marshall', yet?

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 10:07 pm UTC (link)
Yep. Go Herd!!

Unfortunately, no. Haven't gotten around to it yet.

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[info]jugglejuggle
2007-01-10 03:35 am UTC (link)
hmm NOT a Thundering Herd fan. :) I'm a Mountaineer fan. :-P but that's ok. They're ok if we're not playing them!

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[info]miwasatoshi
2007-01-09 06:24 am UTC (link)
As a lifelong PAC-10 partisan ... I have to agree with you. The SEC is pretty awesome.

But logically, given the amount of money spent on athletic programs, the history of said programs, and the average enrollment at SEC schools, it'd be more of a shock if they WEREN'T awesome.

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[info]prader
2007-01-09 06:46 am UTC (link)
The PAC-10 has been coming on pretty strong the last few years. One of the most surprising changes in recent football history.

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[info]miwasatoshi
2007-01-09 08:39 am UTC (link)
Not so surprising when you remember the rapid population growth and immigration to the West ... increasing funding and sports infrastructure means an improved and more competitive football environment.

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[info]schwarze_krahe
2007-01-09 10:11 am UTC (link)
GO GATORS!!!!!

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[info]bad_in_plaid
2007-01-09 10:53 am UTC (link)
Yes. Love my SEC, and I believe we're often discounted.

Last night was awesome.

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[info]sageautumn
2007-01-09 12:45 pm UTC (link)
Love the way you put things.

Heck, even Kentucky won this year (against an ACC team)... ranked last in the SEC in what, three catagories?

(But I've the feelings we only went to a bowl because we travel so darned well.)(Still, a win is a win.)

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[info]jugglejuggle
2007-01-09 01:15 pm UTC (link)
hey that's a great first step!! Go UK!! :) :)

WVU has won 2 bowls in a row and that's a milestone for us! haha I"m glad Notre Dame now has the record for 9 bowl losses in a row....

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[info]fanglord2
2007-01-09 01:29 pm UTC (link)
GO GATORS!!

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[info]susanjacobson
2007-01-09 02:49 pm UTC (link)
GO GATORS!!

And, yah, it's like time the SEC got some of the attention it deserved.

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[info]vaquera
2007-01-09 03:02 pm UTC (link)
hay u r very enteresting plz add me we be internerd friends kthnx

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[info]flaquita
2007-01-09 03:15 pm UTC (link)
go gators! whoooo! basketball and football champs. that is so cool!

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[info]wistfulunicorn
2007-01-09 10:27 pm UTC (link)
SEC SEC SEC - Go Dawgs (GA)

Florida ran all over OSU. Did someone say there was a Heisman trophy winner in that game... was he hiding?

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[info]georgiarepublic
2007-01-09 10:47 pm UTC (link)
As much as I dislike the Gators, mostly because of Spurrier, I've got to hand it to them, they made the Buckeyes look like they were playing in slow-mo for all but the first 5 seconds of the game.

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[info]spamchang
2007-01-09 11:15 pm UTC (link)
i was glad to see ohio state fall. have you seen the sagarin ratings for strength of schedule? the pac-10 owns the top 9 and the number #11 spots for SOS. tennessee gets the #10 spot. if the SEC would schedule bigger program non-conference opponents (not that the bigs would really want to face SEC opponents early on), then i think you'd get a much better case for SEC dominance. and think of all the revenue generation...texas/ohio state early on, for instance. it's a gamble with rankings, but texas did have a bit of a comeback before blowing it.

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-09 11:34 pm UTC (link)
Cite please. Florida had the toughest schedule this year.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt06.htm

The SEC had the 1, 3, 11, 14, 15, 17 SOS this year.
Your stats are way off.

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[info]spamchang
2007-01-09 11:59 pm UTC (link)
sorry, my numbers were for the pre-bowl-game season. bowl games are a completely different animal from regular season games--i don't count them in a team's "schedule" since no one really schedules their opponents for postseason games...

by the way, Florida had the #8 strength of schedule rating, not the #1. the #1 strength of schedule rating goes to Stanford, at #104 in the rankings. USC is #2, followed by Arizona, Tennessee, Washington, Oregon, UCLA, Florida, California, Washington St., Arizona St., Michigan, Kentucky, Syracuse, Oregon St. (at #15 in SOS).

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[info]interdictor
2007-01-10 12:59 am UTC (link)
Still don't see where you're getting your numbers. Here's another one of his showing the SEC as strongest and PAC-10 only 3rd: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc06.htm

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[info]spamchang
2007-01-10 01:16 am UTC (link)
you've confused the overall sagarin ranking with the strength of schedule ranking. the SEC is #1 in terms of overall ranking--power, ability, winning, etc etc. the sagarin rankings show that the SEC is the "best conference" in college football. the Pac-10 is the "#3 best conference" in college football.

if you look deeper into the numbers, you'll see that there's a column titled "SCHEDL(RANK)" to the right of the win/loss numbers, which is right of the Rating column, which is the first column next to the name of the school. in the SCHEDL(RANK) column are two numbers--the one outside the parentheses is the actual strength rating of that school's schedule. the number inside the parentheses, as indicated by the column header, is the overall ranking of that strength.

i believe my SOS remarks are still valid for the regular season this year, and even 10 out of the top 15 ain't bad.

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