interdictor ([info]interdictor) wrote,
@ 2005-12-08 14:25:00
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I'm Just Telling The Truth
In my last entry, some people gave me some flack for not giving a rosy view of the city. I'm telling people they really shouldn't come back to New Orleans but my detractors say I'm being an alarmist.

Well here's another alarm for you idiots who are spreading the propaganda that everything is fine and improving. While you tell people to come back, other people are getting laid off and will have to leave. I know you have a vested interest here, but I'm not going to lie or hide the truth.

Tulane University Announces Layoffs

Tulane University announced plans Thursday to lay off about 230 faculty
members and shut down some programs to cope with the financial damage
done by Hurricane Katrina.

In a set of budget cuts totaling about $100 million, the university will
eliminate about 180 faculty positions at its medical school and about
50 in its undergraduate and graduate programs
.

Before the storm struck on Aug. 29, Tulane had about 2,500 faculty
members and 13,200 students — nearly 8,000 undergraduates and 5,200 in
graduate school. But the campus in the city's Uptown section has been
closed since Katrina's floodwaters ruined New Orleans and scattered
most of its half-million inhabitants.


Yeah, come back to New Orleans. And wave goodbye to the people who just got fired. And what people just got fired? Oh nobody important, just 180 medical doctor-professors and another 50 assorted college professors. No loss there.

Tell the truth -- in the long run you'll be doing more good than harm.


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[info]the_kestral
2005-12-08 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Its sad that people are giving you flack for telling it like it is. Obviously I only have the information I can find online and in the press about the situation in New Orleans, but the bits that I can find all lead me to expect things to be getting worse long before they get better there.

And the fact that the university has had to announce layoffs should be no surprise. Even if the campus had not been closed since the floodwaters rose, the fact that many students have had to make other choices (well those that could even consider school an option this semester) would lead one to expect the universities in the affected regions to be faced with financial shortfalls. I know that my alma mater accepted some students from the schools down there and even brought a professor from one of the schools on for the fall semester as a guest lecturer/professor.

And universities can't be the only places that will be struggling. Not only will businesses be faced with the consequences of physical damage to their business, but also the possibility that they lost key employees either thru forced relocation or worse, loss of life. These are not easy things to recover from, and they dont happen over night just because somebody has a vested interest in forcing the recovery of the region to appear to be going so well.

Yes the region will need people and money invested in it to recover, but people need to be sure that when they are coming there it is at a time and in a manner that they will be helping not harming.

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[info]houses7177
2005-12-08 08:34 pm UTC (link)
Last spring my husband was considering accepting a faculty position at Tulane with me looking for faculty positions at other local universities. We are so glad we didn't, even though we did get hit with both Katrina and Rita here in Mississippi. At least we still have our jobs.

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[info]techsys
2005-12-08 08:34 pm UTC (link)
don't you know that you should always paint a rosy picture for people because when you don't, you aren't catering to people's feelings.

and how people feel is more important than presenting the truth, right?

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(no subject) - [info]greenstripe, 2005-12-08 09:28 pm UTC
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[info]bix02138
2005-12-08 08:34 pm UTC (link)
my professional meeting (the american library association) is supposed to bring 20,000+ librarians and vendors to n'awlins in june. they've officially announced that the event will go on, but i have to wonder how many people will attend. the toronto meeting, a few years back, took a terrible hit due to sars.

if the intellectual infrastructure collapses along with the physical one, there just won't be anything left.

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ALA - [info]missterioso, 2005-12-21 03:05 am UTC

[info]bonniegrrl
2005-12-08 08:37 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for posting these updates. While some people here like bitching in your comments area about things they don't understand, I prefer to read blog entries from people like you who are there and see what's really happening.

Thank you for your honesty and candor.

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(no subject) - [info]cobaltgreen, 2005-12-08 11:34 pm UTC
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[info]manoman
2005-12-08 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Good for you. Tell it like it is. We can't believe the media or the government any more.

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[info]mercedeslove
2005-12-08 08:59 pm UTC (link)
I wanna go back to NOLA simply because I love this city. No matter what shape or condition it's in. I love it.

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Some think New Orleans is worth fighting for - [info]infrogmation, 2005-12-09 12:17 am UTC
Re: Some think New Orleans is worth fighting for - [info]mercedeslove, 2005-12-09 12:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sainteelyse, 2005-12-09 03:11 am UTC

cuppajohn
2005-12-08 08:59 pm UTC (link)
i appreciate your candid assessments of the situation in NO.

i've been there just once a few years back and it was hands down the scariest city i'd ever visited. e.g.: my friend got robbed at gunpoint, i tried to get some things copied at a kinkos staffed by a blind person and a deaf guy (I AM NOT KIDDING), and the lady who cleaned my hotel room at the marriott in the french quarter took all of my loose change every night.

and now the news regarding phantom police officers and other corruption... yeesh. i can't say i am surprised.

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[info]perfection1144
2005-12-08 09:02 pm UTC (link)
Tulane is also getting rid of almost all of their engineering programs as well as doing away with the whole Newcomb College for girls and Tulane College for guys. The changes have a lot of us very unhappy. I hope they can bring some of this back in a few years as things stabilize more.

http://renewal.tulane.edu/background.shtml

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(no subject) - [info]thedabara, 2005-12-09 03:25 pm UTC
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[info]geordie
2005-12-08 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Is that aimed at me? I don't doubt the place is trashed and it's no place to live right now. But the world has fixed worse and will again.

The question for me is whether this administration has the balls or the decency to do what's needed, after all it's hard to give your rich country club friends big tax breaks when you are blowing the money on poor people a long way from Washington and Dallas.

How's the CBD? Do you think major corporate opperations, such as yours, will be compromised by the generally trashed state of much of the city?

Sorry, I'm a pragmatist.

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[info]geordie
2005-12-08 09:06 pm UTC (link)
And now that I read your post properly. Firing people like that sounds more like closing up shop than rebuilding.

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[info]bhanfhlaith
2005-12-08 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Here's another sad tale of it, and Tulane was a big part of this.
Many universities in New Orleans have obviously been badly damaged. Duh. But what's happened now is, people who moved away to start lives elsewhere... well since 9/11 the "background check" including validating credentials from college/degrees, has become massive now. And the trouble is these college Registrar staff cannot get back on campus to get to the records to validate people's degrees. So what ends up happening is, Dr. John Smith moves to Chicago to start a new life. His future employer asks a background screening firm to validate his claimed Doctorate Degree. Then Tulane (or UNO or whoever) takes weeks to find their records... if they can at all. Meanwhile, this guy cannot work until that validation happens.
This is nowhere near as rare as people think; I worked in a part of this process and I've seen it happen to them. It's heartbreaking.

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[info]yamoneta
2005-12-08 09:21 pm UTC (link)
well thats what i dont like about american media they make things eather look "bad" or "good" theres no middle ground they almost always seam to want the best money making story if the good side makes more then they air that and if the bad side makes more they air that (air used loosely) but people should also rember wether its saying somthing bad about them or about an area you have the right to say it and they shouldnt think that they are trying to be mean people but that they the people getting the information that they also have the right not to listion (sorry for spelling errors but then again i just got out of classes today) it also sucks that its hard for people that got layed off down there to get jobs in other parts of the courtry becasue places can not get records to prove things but then again welcome to the age of information (or lack thereof)

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[info]greenstripe
2005-12-08 09:27 pm UTC (link)
you do paint an incredibly harsh picture. for most of us who are living here again, it's nothing lot what you describe every day. your're the fox news of ljneworleans land.

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18 months is probably Optimistic - [info]charlayne, 2005-12-09 05:25 am UTC
Re: 18 months is probably Optimistic - [info]tarx, 2005-12-09 07:04 am UTC
Tourist ghouls - [info]charlayne, 2005-12-09 08:24 pm UTC
Re: Tourist ghouls - [info]tarx, 2005-12-10 03:37 pm UTC
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You rock - (Anonymous), 2005-12-11 04:47 am UTC
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[info]cobaltgreen
2005-12-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
you have the right to say whatever you want. i just find your observations alarmistly slanted and you always leave out crucial facts.

and as far as college prof being laid off... yes that is unfortunate but it has nothing to do with my day to day life. ive been out of college for several years and have a professional job that isnt linked to Tulane (whose student body was only a mere six or seven thousand before the storm).

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[info]zorra
2005-12-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I have a question for ya, there was a Law and Order episode last week
it was about weapon grade anthrax being stolen from a facility near New Orleans
by an employee who stayed behind to watch the facility as soon as the power went out
he made off with their supply and sold it on the black market

now I realize this is a TV show, but it made me curious
do you know of any sort of labs in the area?
granted I'm sure this type of knowledge won't be made public in most cases
in the interest of national security etc.

but if ppl were looting everything else, why not loot labs
the potential for profit if you're willing and have no concious about who's buying it
would be staggering

and I'm glad you're posting the truth, just another example of "YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH"

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(no subject) - [info]entheos93, 2005-12-08 09:55 pm UTC
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[info]michaelcalderin
2005-12-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
I was pretty concerned by that title, but after thinking about it, it really does make sense.

According to that article, New Orleans has 25% as many people as it did before Katrina. Tulane has $200 million in damages (though that number is hard to believe).

New Orleans doesn't need so many doctors, especially considering the damage done to hospitals -- there's less room for them. The city needs to consolidate and eliminate unneeded positions in order to focus on what they really need.

As a Tulanian, it's a bit depressing, but I don't think that means people shouldn't go back. It's just a sign they understand that a lot of people won't.

I applaud and deeply respect you for disseminating the truth of the situation. People should know what's really going on. Again, that doesn't mean they shouldn't go back, but it does mean they should know what to expect if they do.

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[info]evilshell
2005-12-08 09:44 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for posting your thoughts, as you see them, here. It is helpful to see another view of the situation - one I'm more likely to believe than the happy horseshit that I read online from the mainstream news sources in the US.

As for those who say your view is biased and slanted and you're a terrible human being for saying there's problems in NO - don't they realize that every story told by a human is biased, and is reflective of what they have seen through their eyes?! That includes the stories they report as well as the ones they don't want to hear (like yours).

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[info]techsys
2005-12-08 09:45 pm UTC (link)
you know, seeing the 'greens' group together and to give you shit reminds me of a joke i heard a while back...

how many green party members does it take to change a lightbulb?
[wait for it]






none... the green party can't change anything.

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[info]entheos93
2005-12-08 09:49 pm UTC (link)
I have to disagree with your alarmist "don't go back" attitude, but I also agree partially.
Obviously, the entire population can't just go back- the city is too devastated to hold them. As for myself, I was laid off and lost my home not due to the storm, but due to landlord greed- I have no choice but to move on. However, I know many people who own homes that are fixable and can start their jobs again soon. They should be there. I hope anyone that can pick back up and resume a functional life there will, but again, that's going to be a fairly small percentage of the original inhabitants,
UNO and Delgado are both planning to run at full capacity, for the moment- since they don't know what their enrollment is going to look like, it's hard to say now, but they aren't planning cuts and layoffs just yet.
I am very wary of what's going to happen with flood protection, and I am concerned that butts will drag on this until it's too late. However, they'll never do anything about it at all if NO is just a ghost town. There has to be something to protect, and people that can hold accountable those entities that are failing them.
I was living there until very recently and I'd have to agree with you- it looks pretty hopeless right now. I don't think it will return to what it was any time soon, and perhaps it shouldn't. The areas that remained pretty intact are the oldest areas. There's reasons why the town was originally built that way- maybe it should stay that way.
FYI- NOLA East was developed by some unscrupulous developers who knew darn well it wasn't wise to build there. There's a reason they got the land so cheap, and it was the last area to be developed in NO.

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[info]nike2422
2005-12-08 10:28 pm UTC (link)
I don't live in New Orleans, I have never been to New Orleans. I'm watching a major snow storm work it's way into my area and I can't imagine the devastation of a hurricane.

Two friends of mine went to New Orleans after Katrina. The first one worked in a shelter. She has true horror stories to tell. The second one is still there. He owns an environmental cleanup company out of Colorado. A few weeks ago we talked via the internet and he said that the city is destroyed and needs to be bulldozed over.

One thing the internet always has plenty of are trolls; those people who have nothing better to do than spew crap for no other purpose than create drama. You can delete any replies you want off of your blog, as well as block them from posting on your blog. I've had my share of trolls bitching over the couple of years I've had my blog. It's kinda fun to watch them get really mad when you block them.

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(no subject) - [info]cobaltgreen, 2005-12-08 11:46 pm UTC
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[info]katbyte
2005-12-08 11:16 pm UTC (link)
I appreciate your posts. They state the facts without the drama.

I live in The Florida Panhandle and have some experience with the hurricanes, but I have heard exactly what you have stated from other reliable sources without an agenda.

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[info]eternity_4_life
2005-12-08 11:28 pm UTC (link)
anyone hear about the Katrina Cough?

http://www.slate.com/id/2130421/fr/rss/


It's a real condition. Another reason to re-consider going there to live.

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(no subject) - [info]cobaltgreen, 2005-12-09 03:05 am UTC
Think about something here - [info]charlayne, 2005-12-09 05:38 am UTC
And today this very subject is in the paper - [info]charlayne, 2005-12-09 08:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eternity_4_life, 2005-12-08 11:43 pm UTC

[info]eternity_4_life
2005-12-08 11:56 pm UTC (link)
i myself lived in Metairie, the Westbank, Mid-City, Uptown, and the Treme (across Rampart 5 minutes walking distance from the quarter). I was working on Bourbon Street, attending Delgado Community College and living off Carrollton Avenue when the hurricane hit. My house was flooded, and completely ruined by mold. My friends went back to survey the damage, and most of my belongings were irretrievable. I had to purchase an entire new wardrobe and a vehicle, as I was using the Regional Transit system in New Orleans. The other house I lived in had a second floor, and a log went directly through the window and landed on the bed I once slept in. My ex stayed, and he waded through water, got bit by a snake and a dog, and observed dead bodies everywhere. He is now living in the Marigny, and working in the Quarter, as are many of my personal acquaintances. They are ill, and they tell me that the mail is running sporadically at best. None of them really enjoy living there, but they say it is not so bad within the Quarter itself and the immediately surrounding area within walking distance. My friend on the Westbank arrived at her home to find no roof, no fences, and no trees in her entire area (harvey). There was less water damage, but the damage was still substantial. she too is ill. She tells me they claim to be paying $10 an hour and a $300 bonus at Burger King and McDonald's. her job at a Pediatrician's office is severely understaffed and underpaid, as they cannot afford to hire more than a skeleton crew. The Westbank is overpopulated with people waiting to get back.

FEMA called and offered for me to live in a travel-trailer for 18 months until my home was rebuilt. I declined their offer. If you want, you can go live in a travel-trailer among many others which are placed at close proximity with one another. My friend's husband is one of those who are placing the trailers for the residents who wish to return to live in. I would rather live where I am now than in a tiny living space crowded with other residents all around. Little Rock, Arkansas has clear air and room to breathe.

I lived in new orleans and surounding areas for 5 years, and grew up in Baton Rouge, LA. I would not readily return, as there would be nothing to go back to. perhaps I will visit someday.

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